Rogers - The Customer Is Always Wrong


     So, at this point my options are to not use the service I’m paying for, or to pay for charges no one will explain to me, that are unofficial, and that I have not been billed for.

Two days ago my Rogers cell phone was shut off for the third time since I opened the account (around 4 months now), and the second time it’s been shut down in the last 2 weeks. Each time, I only found out that the account had been shut down through emails from friends or family trying to call me. Apparently Rogers sends out text messages telling you you’re nearing your credit limit - that has happened one out of three times. Rogers appears to be the only company that I know of that bucks the traditional model of sending out a bill first, and giving the customer a chance to pay before suspending service. Instead, they give you a credit limit as though you are using a credit card. Pass that credit limit, and no more service for you.

My account is fully paid up. In fact, I received my last bill a couple of days after the last shutdown - the balance was a $7.07 credit.

“How could this happen?”, you ask. “The facts just don’t line up”. Well, I agree, let me give you the play-by-play.

After learning that my service is suspended, I call Rogers - and get transfered to the Accounts Receivable department. I’m irritated, but the guy is friendly enough and it’s obviously not his fault, so I try not to take my frustrations out on him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have details about why my account might be shut down, only that I am apparently over my $400 credit limit. The last bill was dated January 5th - so that’s charges from only the last three weeks. I haven’t been making any long distance calls, I shouldn’t be over my minutes (I’m never even close), and my data usage has not been out of the ordinary. He does manage to find out that it’s probably due to data charges, and adds a note to my account to that effect.

It makes some sense that data usage is the culprit, because I recently switched my plan from a 200 MB/month plan to a 30 MB/month plan - which is $40 cheaper (although still $60 a month just for the data!), and since I have been with Rogers I have not come close to using over 30 MB in a month. So my theory is that the data plan was not set up correctly. Someone clicked the wrong checkbox. This should be an easy problem to fix.

Transfered to Customer Service. She tells me politely that she doesn’t know too much about the data side of things, so after apologizing, transfers me to some kind of data plan customer service department (how many departments does this place have?). Although she was no help, at least she was honest and friendly about it. Still, help would have been nice to get someone who could help instead of just passing the buck.

Transfered to Data Customer Service - a man by the name of Monier answers. He is not as friendly, but that’s okay, I’m here to get this settled, so let’s just settle it. Only that is apparently not going to happen.

Although he can see the details of my data usage (after first telling me he couldn’t), it is just in a list of the individual instances of use - and there is no way to add up those bytes to find out how much data I have transferred since the 5th. No way to get that information! I mention to him that there must be some way, since my phone has been shut off due to charges based on that data use. Monier tells me that that’s not necessarily due to the data use, it could be that I’ve made a lot of long distance calls or gone over my minutes. I inform him that I don’t believe either of those would be the cause, but ask if he can tell me that in fact they are. He can’t. A very circular conversation ensues, turning into less of a conversation than an argument, and tones of voice take a decidedly unfriendly turn.

Monier: You are over your $400 credit limit, you’ll need to make a payment.
Me: Can you tell me why?
Monier: No, all of the data charges I can see are unofficial, so I can’t give those to customers. They will get reviewed, and possibly removed if they are incorrect at the end of the billing cycle.
Me: How unofficial can they be? My phone was shut off! Also, isn’t it strange that no one can tell me the actual reason behind why my phone was shut off?
Monier: The reason is that you are over your $400 credit limit.
Me: Can you tell me why?
Monier: No.

Multiply that by 20 minutes, and you get the picture.

After I have been on the phone for a total of 34 minutes, most of that time spent arguing with Monier, I am getting exhausted, and certainly don’t feel like talking with this jerk any more. I ask him what he can do to help me. More arguing. I ask him if there is another person or a manager I can talk to. He tells me he is a Senior Customer blah blah… I say I don’t know what that means, and again ask to talk to someone else. He tries desperately to get into the same circular argument, but I say nothing…. until I say that it all sounds like bullshit, I don’t want to talk to him any more, and could he please transfer me to someone else. Amazingly, he still does not, but instead continues to tell me about my $400 credit limit, and how I should make a payment (without a bill or any kind of explanation) to get back under my credit limit. I say, as forcefully as I can at this point, “I don’t want to talk to you anymore, please transfer me to someone else”. He says okay… and proceeds to put me on infinite hold. I eventually hang up.

I decide take a few minutes to write down some key details, and cool down before calling back.

Call back. Accounts Receivable department. This time I am told that my un-billed calls are around $460.00. No, I don’t want to make a payment and dispute it when the next bill comes. I want to take care of it now before the situation gets worse. If I make a $200 payment won’t I just be back in this situation in a week? Avoid using the internet until then, I’m told. “Why? I have a data plan.”, I reply.

So, at this point my options are to not use the service I’m paying for, or to pay for charges no one will explain to me, that are unofficial, and that I have not been billed for.

Transfer to Customer Service - Irene. Explain the situation for the fifth time. Hold. Looks like data usage is the problem. She wants to talk to the data department. Hold. Is she actually working to help me?

18 minutes into call #2 now. At least I don’t have to fight with anyone this time…. so far. Jazzy swingy ragtime music, I wonder who chooses that?

She’s back. Oh my god - only 9 MB used this month! She says it must be a problem with the system, and she’ll see if she can fix it. Irene is a superstar! Talking to other departments instead of constant transfers? Crazy! On hold again, fingers crossed.

Irene is back - with good news! I can tell that she is working within the confines of a crappy system, but at least she’s dealing with it instead of passing the burden on to me. She can’t reverse the charges yet, but she did get the credit limit removed, so my phone will work again.

Once the billing cycle is closed, she’ll follow up to make sure everything looks right (ie - crazy expensive data charges are reversed), and call if any adjustments need to be made, so I won’t be surprised if I get an incorrect bill.

It’s hard to believe that after talking to 4 people who couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything to help, that I somehow got lucky enough to find someone who could and did. I wonder what magic she performed to get the total of my data usage?

My faith in Rogers, however is not restored. It shouldn’t take an hour to finally talk to someone helpful. It shouldn’t take an hour and a half to resolve what should be a simple billing issue. And they never should have shut my phone off without calling me first to fix whatever the problem was. No wonder there’s no official iPhone in Canada yet.

I was happy to wait on hold for a few more minutes to talk to a manager after to commend Irene on her work.

I may call back later to complain about Monier, we’ll see.

As a nice follow up after my phone service was restored, the first text message I got was from Rogers telling me that I am nearing my credit limit. What great customer service.

4 Responses to “Rogers - The Customer Is Always Wrong”

  1. Davin Says:

    I had an incident with Rogers.

    I moved to a new address in November, got my 1st bill in January for over a $1000, usually my bill is about $250 each month.

    Also during the move they deleted my email accounts, that took me a few days to get fixed.

    The main issue was that rogers combine my account with the person that lived previously at my new address, and started charging me for their services, as well as mine.

    They disconnected my service for none payment, even though they knew they were billing me for someone else service, they told me it was at fault for not checking my bills(bills I never got, they were mailing the bills to the other persons address), they also told me I was at fault for them sending my bills to the wrong address.

    It took me a few months to “finally” get this problem rectified, basically they took charges off as a “favor to me” but I ended up paying $1200 for 4 months when my bill is usually $250 per month.

    Also I checked the bill this month, I am being charged for roaming in the US, my phone is restricted by rogers(at my request)from making calls when I am out of my local calling area. Every time I visit the US there are strange roaming charges on the phone, even though I never use the phone and it is restricted from making calls. The most rogers do is acknowledge this charges is incorrect and offer no explanations as to why I was charged in the first place.

  2. Jake Says:

    OK I get the iPhone and they tell me because of my credit I have to put down a $200 deposit??? OK sure (bell never did that with my Blackberry) so I got the $30 data and $45 voice and $20 extras thing. 7 days later after the phone comes out they cut it off. WTF!!! so I wait on hold for 30min and the Rogers rep says you have reached your $200 limit and they canceled my service… Why? Because the first bill is Pro-rated and that comes to $209. I have had the figgen phone for 9 days!!!! I gave them such shit and the turned it back on and they asked me for $9… 9 fucking dollars!!! My clients can’t get a hold of me for $9?
    Roger’s policy’s stink and I want to go back to bell.

  3. Harpreet Banwait Says:

    What is going on at Rogers. According to there CSR’s there service is suppose to be improving. Are you kidding me…I have about had enough of the contradicting BS that comes out their mouths. Not one CSM is accountable for anything they tell the customer. In January 2008 I was to receive a 1GB memory for a cell phone. It was really simple as I thought. Fill out the form, mail it in…and 2 months later i’m still waiting. It took me 6 calls and an email to a manager to finally get it resolved. An absolute 45 minutes waste of my time. Most recently I asked for my email account to be transferred from another account since we had moved. And as I was once again reassured…”Don’t worry sir…all of the information will be transferred over to your new account” Well guess what? It is all gone! Even my contacts. And there response to rectify this is to call Yahoo. Are you kidding me…the last time I checked I’m billed by Rogers NOT Yahoo! Time to start looking for another service provider…3 cell phones, cable, internet, Home phone…looks like a lot of shopping for me.

  4. Debbie Says:

    I have had a Rogers cell for 4 years now, in fact 3 of them on a family plan.
    This July we moved from BC to Ontario and I decided to go with Rogers for internet, home phone, cable and cells.
    They installed the internet and cable and home phone on the tuesday and on the saturday we were suspended.
    I called and they told me about my credit limit…and pretty much toooo bad..they made me drive into the city 30 mins away and pay at the rogers video store…when I go there I was on the phone with Rogers yet another 45 mins,,,probably the 3rd time, and a girl told me I did not need to a pay my bill due on August 1 yet,,,this was July 20.
    I paid it anyway so now the Aug 1 bill is paid and I owe OOOOOOO.
    The next day I went to use my home phone and it did not work…was told after 45 mins again…TOO BAD IT TAKES 24-48 BEFORE RESTORATION!!!!!!
    I phoned on the Monday to cancel the home phone, internet and cable…and was told sorry please stay this will never happen again…
    Today is August 9th and guess what…my cell phone is cut off…
    WHY,,,
    due to my credit limit and pending charges owing on September 1st…
    another 45 mins on the phone….to be told too bad…
    The bill was just printed and is not even on the website yet for me to look at?
    My daughter, 16, is an hour away and has no cell phone to call home now..all this over a bill which is not in my hand and is due on Sept 1…..
    Rogers is a nightmare….how can you suspend someones service without giving them a chance to pay it or a bill? there must be some kind of law there.
    This is how Rogers treats customers after 5 years of service with them..
    BUYER BEWARE….
    Any tips on what my options are legally would be appreciated..
    I would need to pay 1200.00 to cancel, 400 per phone

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